After several days of rain, it was difficult-to-impossible to keep your feet dry using our new Pleasant Valley Farms map; but the day itself proved to be a great one for running/hiking. It was much cloudier than predicted, but that kept the temperature down in the upper 50's/low 60’s, and there was a strong breeze which kept the bugs away. We had a nice turnout, and for the most part it appeared that folks enjoyed their courses.

The relative dis-use of the trails made it hard to follow some of them, and the Orange course may have a been a bit too difficult, partly for that reason. It can be hard to strike the right balance when designing an Orange course. As the only course designated as “Intermediate” in technical difficulty, it should be more difficult, not just longer, than a Yellow course (which is designated as “Advanced Beginner”). But the step between Yellow and Orange is the hardest transition to make, because you are going from readily visible control locations to ones which require the use of more than sight of where you are on a trail, to such things as handrails, compass bearings, attack points, and collecting/catching features. An Orange (Intermediate) course should be more like an “Advanced” course (Brown/Green/Red/Blue), with a length between Brown and Green, but where the time penalties paid for navigation errors are minimized due to the prominence of the control location (perhaps a large pond/lake corner) or obvious collecting/catching features (such as stonewalls before/after the control, or field corners near the control). This course can be hard to design in any location.

In a place like Washington Park in downtown Albany, or even Five Rivers in Delmar, the difference among all of the course levels is really mostly distance, not difficulty; but in a place with real forest, the difference in difficulty can be significant. Today, I may have missed the exact course difficulty balance somewhat. I hope today’s Orange DNF’s still had fun in the attempt.

I received a couple of ideas on map corrections (in the eastern loop area where only Green and Red runners ventured). I’ll look into them as I pick up the controls. Thanks for the info. Watch for annual meeting minutes in the Club Information section of the website.

--Phil Hawkes-Teeter
assisted by Sue H-T

19 starts (2 day members)


2014 Pleasant Valley Sat 6/14/2014 8:28 PM
Split time results created by OE2010 © Stephan Krämer SportSoftware 2014
 
Red (6) 6.0 km 15 C
Pl Name Cl. Time
1(31) 2(32) 3(43) 4(34) 5(35) 6(71) 7(36) 8(44) 9(37) 10(38) 11(72) 12(40) 13(41) 14(50) 15(100) F
 
1 Glen Tryson M45 1:12:32 3:13 4:35 15:24 18:20 22:42 23:52 26:10 31:56 37:44 46:29 51:20 54:26 1:00:47 1:08:30 1:11:06 1:12:32
EMPO 3:13 1:22 10:49 2:56 4:22 1:10 2:18 5:46 5:48 8:45 4:51 3:06 6:21 7:43 2:36 1:26
2 Frank Boscoe M35 1:19:09 2:42 4:35 14:46 17:17 23:23 24:22 26:39 32:55 38:25 48:41 59:25 1:03:33 1:08:28 1:14:41 1:17:22 1:19:09
EMPO 2:42 1:53 10:11 2:31 6:06 0:59 2:17 6:16 5:30 10:16 10:44 4:08 4:55 6:13 2:41 1:47
3 Fred Pilon M45 1:24:38 2:54 4:48 16:38 19:53 23:20 24:43 27:16 32:59 38:04 46:54 52:43 57:58 1:06:20 1:19:19 1:22:46 1:24:38
EMPO 2:54 1:54 11:50 3:15 3:27 1:23 2:33 5:43 5:05 8:50 5:49 5:15 8:22 12:59 3:27 1:52
4 David Harnett M45 1:43:17 4:01 7:16 26:39 32:34 39:16 40:17 44:22 51:52 58:55 1:11:21 1:18:11 1:23:00 1:30:14 1:37:22 1:41:41 1:43:17
WCOC 4:01 3:15 19:23 5:55 6:42 1:01 4:05 7:30 7:03 12:26 6:50 4:49 7:14 7:08 4:19 1:36
5 Bruce Beesley M45 1:53:22 3:18 6:01 25:50 31:04 36:32 37:43 40:48 49:13 55:18 1:07:17 1:16:00 1:21:15 1:27:46 1:46:27 1:51:17 1:53:22
EMPO 3:18 2:43 19:49 5:14 5:28 1:11 3:05 8:25 6:05 11:59 8:43 5:15 6:31 18:41 4:50 2:05
6 Todd Palmer M21 2:09:07 13:43 15:26 30:02 35:37 39:27 40:35 43:34 51:00 57:30 1:06:58 1:13:59 1:31:33 1:40:09 1:57:02 2:06:04 2:09:07
EMPO 13:43 1:43 14:36 5:35 3:50 1:08 2:59 7:26 6:30 9:28 7:01 17:34 8:36 16:53 9:02 3:03


Green (1) 4.9 km 13 C
Pl Name Cl.             
Time
1(32) 2(44) 3(43) 4(34) 5(35) 6(71) 7(36) 8(37) 9(103) 10(38) 11(72) 12(40) 13(100) F
 
1 Janet Tryson F55 1:30:26 4:43 19:12 26:38 31:32 43:38 45:15 47:57 54:58 59:39 1:08:13 1:14:34 1:23:16 1:28:27 1:30:26 35:05
EMPO 4:43 14:29 7:26 4:54 12:06 1:37 2:42 7:01 4:41 8:34 6:21 8:42 5:11 1:59 *71
 

Orange (10) 3.3 km 9 C
Pl Name Cl. Time
1(45) 2(32) 3(37) 4(36) 5(109) 6(38) 7(102) 8(40) 9(50) F
 
1 Susan Hawkes-Teeter RecO 1:26:52 3:53 7:33 18:54 38:20 49:14 54:47 58:59 1:14:21 1:24:12 1:26:52
EMPO 3:53 3:40 11:21 19:26 10:54 5:33 4:12 15:22 9:51 2:40
2 Stefan Bagnato/Amy Conway GO 1:29:04 3:11 7:22 17:12 30:03 51:17 58:07 1:04:09 1:16:44 1:25:13 1:29:04
EMPO 3:11 4:11 9:50 12:51 21:14 6:50 6:02 12:35 8:29 3:51
3 Eric Hamilton RecO 1:33:50 5:37 11:27 23:01 33:59 46:18 55:55 1:04:50 1:16:28 1:29:41 1:33:50
EMPO 5:37 5:50 11:34 10:58 12:19 9:37 8:55 11:38 13:13 4:09
4 Bruce Shenker RecO 1:43:23 3:24 9:21 23:19 37:33 51:44 1:08:09 1:13:08 1:22:33 1:39:56 1:43:23
EMPO 3:24 5:57 13:58 14:14 14:11 16:25 4:59 9:25 17:23 3:27
5 Cynthia Johnson RecO 1:47:16 17:59 20:47 43:42 54:57 1:07:26 1:20:12 1:24:31 1:35:22 1:44:11 1:47:16
EMPO 17:59 2:48 22:55 11:15 12:29 12:46 4:19 10:51 8:49 3:05
6 Phillip Friddle/Maura Dargush GO 1:49:45 9:28 16:12 35:29 49:40 1:07:40 1:20:15 1:27:28 1:37:53 1:44:38 1:49:45
EMPO 9:28 6:44 19:17 14:11 18:00 12:35 7:13 10:25 6:45 5:07
 
Terry Hatton Group GO dnf 12:22 20:48 ----- ----- 1:07:34 ----- ----- ----- ----- 1:26:38
EMPO 12:22 8:26 46:46 19:04
Eric Randall RecO dnf 8:05 13:01 39:54 1:21:17 1:41:01 ----- ----- ----- ----- 1:59:37
None 8:05 4:56 26:53 41:23 19:44 18:36
Johna Peachin/Ron Peters GO dnf 6:31 22:41 45:05 ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
EMPO 6:31 16:10 22:24
Bob Feller Group GO dnf 23:33 38:07 1:14:11 1:52:00 ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 3:25:37 3:41:35
None 23:33 14:34 36:04 37:49 *104 *105
 

Yellow (2) 2.4 km 9 C
Pl Name Cl. Time
1(105) 2(104) 3(109) 4(102) 5(106) 6(52) 7(70) 8(55) 9(54) F
 
1 Axton Pulliam M15 46:17 4:28 7:41 9:54 14:48 29:49 34:03 37:15 41:37 45:55 46:17
EMPO 4:28 3:13 2:13 4:54 15:01 4:14 3:12 4:22 4:18 0:22
 
James Torriani RecY dnf ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
EMPO